Wednesday, June 17, 2009

References on Newton and God

a general introduction can be found in Edward B. Davis' chapter in the recent book:


Galileo Goes to Jail and Other Myths about Science and Religion
by Ronald L. Numbers

In it he states that Newton was not a deist but believed it was blasphemy to think that God did not constantly interact with his creation. He bases this on some letters between his associate Samuel Clarke, and Leibniz

H. G. Alexander "the Leibniz - Clarke correspondence" Manchester U. pr. 1956 pg 11-12, 14

more info maybe here also:

"God of Gods, and Lord of Lords: the theology of Isaac Newton's General Scholium to the principia" Stephen D. Snobelen, Osiris #16 (2001) pgs 169-208


hmm apparently Newton was a very complicated fellow. here is a bbc presentation on his life

What Is Newton Trying To Say About God In His Opticks?

This is from query 32 of Newton's Opticks. Online here:

In this query he has been discussing all the chemistry he knows and wondering about the laws of physics that govern the particles of matter.

In it, he wonders about how the universe began, how the motions keep going given that there are inelastic collisions and friction in fluids and all motion must eventually cease.

In it he has a role for God at the beginning setting it in motion intelligently.

What i can't figure out from this passage is whether he has a role for God continuously prodding his creation, so it doesn't run down. I had seen arguments that Newton thought God must be doing so or else the chaotic motions of the solar system would eventually wreck it. these arguments are based on this passage:

For while Comets move in very excentrick Orbs in all manner of Positions, blind Fate could never make all the Planets move one and the same way in Orbs concentrick, some inconsiderable Irregularities excepted which may have risen from the mutual Actions of Comets and Planets upon one another, and which will be apt to increase, till this System wants a Reformation.

from pg 378 below

but i don't see that their claim is supported by this passage.


What follows is half of query 32 broken up by me and notes inserted by me in uppercase. ( the page numbers appear thusly: <378>)

Notice how much Newton is thinking about and how hard it is to wrap ones head around what he is writing!

more references here

START HERE***

And thus Nature will be very conformable to her self and very simple, performing all the great Motions of the heavenly Bodies by the Attraction of Gravity which intercedes those Bodies, and almost all the small ones of their Particles by some other attractive and repelling Powers which intercede the Particles.
THE LAWS THUS FAR DO NOT SHOW HOW THE UNIVERSE STARTED
The Vis inertiæ is a passive Principle by which Bo <373> dies persist in their Motion or Rest, receive Motion in proportion to the Force impressing it, and resist as much as they are resisted. By this Principle alone there never could have been any Motion in the World.

INELASTIC COLLISIONS SHOW THAT THE MOTIONS WILL DISSIPATE
Some other Principle was necessary for putting Bodies into Motion; and now they are in Motion, some other Principle is necessary for conserving the Motion. For from the various Composition of two Motions, 'tis very certain that there is not always the same quantity of Motion in the World. For if two Globes joined by a slender Rod, revolve about their common Center of Gravity with an uniform Motion, while that Center moves on uniformly in a right Line drawn in the Plane of their circular Motion; the Sum of the Motions of the two Globes, as often as the Globes are in the right Line described by their common Center of Gravity, will be bigger than the Sum of their Motions, when they are in a Line perpendicular to that right Line. By this Instance it appears that Motion may be got or lost.

But by reason of the Tenacity of Fluids, and Attrition of their Parts, and the Weakness of Elasticity in Solids, Motion is much more apt to be lost than got, and is always upon the Decay. For Bodies which are either absolutely hard, or so soft as to be void of Elasticity, will not rebound from one another. Impenetrability makes them only stop. If two equal Bodies meet directly in vacuo, they will by the Laws of Motion stop where they meet, and lose all their Motion, and remain in rest, unless <374> they be elastick, and receive new Motion from their Spring. If they have so much Elasticity as suffices to make them rebound with a quarter, or half, or three quarters of the Force with which they come together, they will lose three quarters, or half, or a quarter of their Motion. And this may be tried, by letting two equal Pendulums fall against one another from equal heights. If the Pendulums be of Lead or soft Clay, they will lose all or almost all their Motions: If of elastick Bodies they will lose all but what they recover from their Elasticity. If it be said, that they can lose no Motion but what they communicate to other Bodies, the consequence is, that in vacuo they can lose no Motion, but when they meet they must go on and penetrate one anothers Dimensions.

DECAY OF MOTION IN LIQUIDS DUE TO FRICTION
If three equal round Vessels be filled, the one with Water, the other with Oil, the third with molten Pitch, and the Liquors be stirred about alike to give them a vortical Motion; the Pitch by its Tenacity will lose its Motion quickly, the Oil being less tenacious will keep it longest, but yet will lose it in a short time.
LOSS OF MOTION IN THE HEAVENS?
Whence it is easy to understand, that if many contiguous Vortices of molten Pitch were each of them as large as those which some suppose to revolve about the Sun and fix'd Stars, yet these and all their Parts would, by their tenacity and stiffness, communicate their Motion to one another till they all rested among themselves. Vortices of Oil or Water, or some fluider Matter, might <375> continue longer in Motion; but unless the Matter were void of all Tenacity and Attrition of Parts, and Communication of Motion, (which is not to be supposed) the Motion would constantly decay.


IF DECAY, THEN MOTION MUST BE RECRUITED BY ACTIVE PRINCIPLES:
Seeing therefore the variety of Motion which we find in the World is always decreasing, there is a necessity of conserving and recruiting it by active Principles, such as are the cause of Gravity, by which Planets and Comets keep their Motions in their Orbs, and Bodies acquire great Motion in falling;

and the cause of Fermentation, by which the Heart and Blood of Animals are kept in perpetual Motion
and Heat; the inward Parts of the Earth are constantly warm'd, and in some places grow very hot; Bodies burn and shine, Mountains take fire, the Caverns of the Earth are blown up, and the Sun continues violently hot and lucid, and warms all things by his Light. For we meet with very little Motion in the World, besides what is owing to these active Principles. And if it were not for these Principles the Bodies of the Earth, Planets, Comets, Sun, and all things in them would grow cold and freeze, and become inactive Masses; and all Putrefaction, Generation, Vegetation and Life would cease, and the Planets and Comets would not remain in their Orbs.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND, HOW CAN GRAVITY BE AN ACTIVE PRINCIPLE? IT'S NOT A SOURCE OF ENERGY! NEWTON IS CONFUSED.


GOD CREATED HARD PARTICLES IN THE BEGINING. SINCE THE NATURE OF WATER CANNOT CHANGE IN TIME, THESE PARTICLES WHICH GIVE IT PROPERTIES ARE NONDESTRUCTIBLE: ATOMS
All these things being consider'd, it seems probable to me, that God in the Beginning form'd Matter in solid, massy, hard, impenetrable, moveable Particles, of such Sizes and Figures, and with such other Properties, and in such Proportion <376> to Space, as most conduced to the End for which he form'd them; and that these primitive Particles being Solids, are incomparably harder than any porous Bodies compounded of them; even so very hard, as never to wear or break in pieces: No ordinary Power being able to divide what God himself made one in the first Creation. While the Particles continue entire, they may compose Bodies of one and the same Nature and Texture in all Ages: But should they wear away, or break in pieces, the Nature of Things depending on them, would be changed. Water and Earth composed of old worn Particles and Fragments of Particles, would not be of the same Nature and Texture now, with Water and Earth composed of entire Particles, in the Beginning. And therefore that Nature may be lasting, the Changes of corporeal Things are to be placed only in the various Separations and new Associations and Motions of these permanent Particles; compound Bodies being apt to break, not in the midst of solid Particles, but where those Particles are laid together, and only touch in a few Points.

It seems to me farther, that these Particles have not only a Vis inertiæ, accompanied with such passive Laws of Motion as naturally result from that Force, but also that they are moved by certain active Principles, such as is that of Gravity, and that which causes Fermentation, and the Cohesion of Bodies.
These Principles I consider not as occult Qualities, supposed to result from the specifick Forms of Things, but <377> as general Laws of Nature, by which the Things themselves are form'd: their Truth appearing to us by Phænomena, though their Causes be not yet discover'd.

For these are manifest Qualities, and their Causes only are occult.

WHAT'S HE MEAN BY OCCULT MERELY HIDDEN AS OPPOSED TO MANIFEST?

And the Aristotelians gave the Name of occult Qualities not to manifest Qualities, but to such Qualities only as they supposed to lie hid in Bodies, and to be the unknown Causes of manifest Effects: Such as would be the Causes of Gravity, and of magnetick and electrick Attractions, and of Fermentations,

if we should suppose that these Forces or Actions arose from Qualities unknown to us, and uncapable of being discovered and made manifest.

Such occult Qualities put a stop to the Improvement of natural Philosophy, and therefore of late Years have been rejected. To tell us that every Species of Things is endow'd with an occult specifick Quality by which it acts an produces manifest Effects, is to tell us nothing:

But to derive two or three general Principles of Motion from Phænomena, and afterwards to tell us how the Properties and Actions of all corporeal Things follow from those manifest Principles, would be a very great step in Philosophy, though the Causes of those Principles were not yet discover'd: And therefore I scruple not to propose the Principles of Motion above mention'd, they being of very general Extent, and leave their Causes to be found out.


THE UNIVERSE WAS CREATED BY AN INTELLIGENT AGENT NOT BY LAWS OUT OF CHANCE CHAOS
Now by the help of these Principles, all material Things seem to have been composed of <378> the hard and solid Particles above mention'd, variously associated in the first Creation by the Counsel of an intelligent Agent.

For it became him who created them to set them in order.

And if he did so, it's unphilosophical to seek for any other Origin of the World, or to pretend that it might arise out of a Chaos by the mere Laws of Nature;

though being once form'd, it may continue by those Laws for many Ages.

IT LOOKS LIKE CHAOS OUT THERE IN THE COMETS SO HOW COULD THE PLANETS COME TO MOVE ALL IN ONE DIRECTION CONCENTRIC BY LAWS FROM CHAOS?
For while Comets move in very excentrick Orbs in all manner of Positions, blind Fate could never make all the Planets move one and the same way in Orbs concentrick, some inconsiderable Irregularities excepted which may have risen from the mutual Actions of Comets and Planets upon one another, and which will be apt to increase, till this System wants a Reformation.

NO STATEMENT THOUGH THAT THIS IS WHAT will HAPPEN AND GOD MUST CONTINUE TO FIX IT. HMMM*****

Such a wonderful Uniformity in the Planetary System must be allowed the Effect of Choice.

SO TOO IT'S OBVIOUS THE CONTRIVANCES OF ANIMALS ARE DESIGNED
And so must the Uniformity in the Bodies of Animals, they having generally a right and a left side shaped alike, and on either side of their Bodies two Legs behind, and either two Arms, or two Legs, or two Wings before upon their Shoulders, and between their Shoulders a Neck running down into a Back-bone, and a Head upon it; and in the Head two Ears, two Eyes, a Nose, a Mouth and a Tongue, alike situated. Also the first Contrivance of those very artificial Parts of Animals, the Eyes, Ears, Brain, Muscles, Heart, Lungs, Midriff, Glands, Larynx, Hands, Wings, Swimming Bladders, na <379> tural Spectacles, and other Organs of Sense and Motion; and the Instinct of Brutes and Insects,

can be the effect of nothing else than the

Wisdom and Skill of a powerful

ever-living Agent, who being in all Places, is more able by his Will to move the Bodies within his boundless uniform Sensorium, and thereby to

form and reform the Parts of the Universe,

than we are by our Will to move the Parts of our own Bodies.

IS HE SAYING HERE THAT THE AGENT IS continuously REFORMING THE PARTS, EACH GENERATION OR SOMETHING?

And yet we are not to consider the World as the Body of God, or the several Parts thereof, as the Parts of God. He is an uniform Being, void of Organs, Members or Parts, and they are his Creatures subordinate to him, and subservient to his Will;

and he is no more the Soul of them, than the Soul of a Man is the Soul of the Species of Things carried through the Organs of Sense into the place of its Sensation, where it perceives them by means of its immediate Presence, without the Intervention of any third thing.

THIS IS PUZZLING. HE IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT so MUCH.

The Organs of Sense are not for enabling the Soul to perceive the Species of Things in its Sensorium, but only for conveying them thither; and God has no need of such Organs, he being every where present to the Things themselves. And since Space is divisible in infinitum, and Matter is not necessarily in all places, it may be also allow'd that God is able to create Particles of Matter of several Sizes and Figures, and in several Proportions to Space, and perhaps of different Densities and Forces, and thereby to vary the Laws of Nature, and make Worlds of several sorts in <380> several Parts of the Universe. At least, I see nothing of Contradiction in all this.

As in Mathematicks, so in Natural Philosophy, the Investigation of difficult Things by the Method of Analysis, ought ever to precede the Method of Composition. This Analysis consists in making Experiments and Observations, and in drawing general Conclusions from them by Induction, and admitting of no Objections against the Conclusions, but such as are taken from Experiments, or other certain Truths. For Hypotheses are not to be regarded in experimental Philosophy. And although the arguing from Experiments and Observations by Induction be no Demonstration of general Conclusions; yet it is the best way of arguing which the Nature of Things admits of, and may be looked upon as so much the stronger, by how much the Induction is more general. And if no Exception occur from Phænomena, the Conclusion may be pronounced generally. But if at any time afterwards any Exception shall occur from Experiments, it may then begin to be pronounced with such Exceptions as occur. By this way of Analysis we may proceed from Compounds to Ingredients, and from Motions to the Forces producing them; and in general, from Effects to their Causes, and from particular Causes to more general ones, till the Argument end in the most general. This is the Method of Analysis: And the Synthesis consists in assuming the Causes discover'd and establish'd as Principles, and by them explaining the Phæ <381> nomena proceeding from them, and proving the Explanations.

In the two first Books of these Opticks, I proceeded by this Analysis to discover and prove the original Differences of the Rays of Light in respect of Refrangibility, Reflexibility, and Colour, and their alternate Fits of easy Reflexion and easy Transmission, and the Properties of Bodies, both opake and pellucid, on which their Reflexions and Colours depend. And these Discoveries being proved, may be assumed in the Method of Composition for explaining the Phænomena arising from them: An Instance of which Method I gave in the End of the first Book. In this third Book I have only begun the Analysis of what remains to be discover'd about Light and its Effects upon the Frame of Nature, hinting several things about it, and leaving the Hints to be examin'd and improved by the farther Experiments and Observations of such as are inquisitive. And if natural Philosophy in all its Parts, by pursuing this Method, shall at length be perfected, the Bounds of moral Philosophy will be also enlarged. For so far as we can know by natural Philosophy what is the first Cause, what Power he has over us, and what Benefits we receive from him, so far our Duty towards him, as well as that towards one another, will appear to us by the Light of Nature. And no doubt, if the Worship of false Gods had not blinded the Heathen, their moral Philosophy would have gone farther than to the four Cardinal Virtues; and <382> instead of teaching the Transmigration of Souls, and to worship the Sun and Moon, and dead Heroes, they would have taught us to worship our true Author and Benefactor.